Black Widow: David Harbour as Red Guardian
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It appears that the crowd gathered at Brazil’s CCXP con were treated to all sorts of exclusive looks at upcoming projects, including ‘Black Widow’.  Even though the clip wasn’t released online for all to view, one person that claims to have been present describes a “crashed helicopter” scene that was shown in which David Harbour‘s Alexei Shostakov (the Red Guardian) asks Natasha (Scarlett Johansson) if Captain America ever told her about their “war stories” and refers to Cap as a “geopolitical adversary.”  (via Reddit)

In the comics, this would make sense, but not in the movies.  Chris Evans’ Captain America only went on one mission before he was frozen in ice.  And besides that, America and Russia were allies during World War II.  And when Cap awakened, it was in 2012, long after the end of the Cold War.


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Oh but wait… Cap went back in time and stayed in ‘Avengers: Endgame’.  Could he have possibly gone on a few more adventures in the past, perhaps in the ’50s, including an encounter with Shostakov?  A man as honorable as Cap wouldn’t be able to sit still if he saw injustice.  BUT he also knows enough to understand that if he did anything too outlandish, it would mess up history.  They even discussed the paradox of him existing in the past alongside himself who was frozen in ice.

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Maybe in the greater context of the movie this line will make more sense, provided it makes the final cut.

Earlier this year, Harbour discussed his role, saying:

“That’s one of the things I really like about this character.  There’s an openness to interpretation. The one thing we do is know is that he’s the counterpart to Captain America on the Russian Soviet side, but that way we have a lot of play with who he is and we are playing with him.


“Initially when I heard the pitch she [director Cate Shortland] was like ‘He’s this and he’s this,’ and I was like ‘Yeah, I got it.’…he spins and he twists and he turns in ways that make sense and in ways I don’t expect characters to go there. I expect characters to be a color or a flavor and we get to know them and this guy is really rich.”

Would you be intrigued to learn of some of Cap’s undocumented adventures?